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SMSgt DJ Lemire
06:10 PM on May 07, 2013
I served with the US Army as a 12B, later as a 13F. After 17 years my body was breaking down so I joined the Air Force. All branches of the service have their mission to support the United States. Without all five branches there would be no US Military. I've served alongside all of the branches (except the Coast Guard) and after all of the bragging and chest puffing we are the same. I played cards with Marines and ate with the Navy. When I served with the Air Force, it was amazing how many prior Marines, Army and Navy Veterans were mixed within the ranks. Officers and NCO's, do the right thing and stand proud with the other branches of the service. Now that I'm retired, take a visit to your local VA...All five branches are there as we always have been. Thanks to the author for his take on our military. I miss serving with all of you! Veteran US Army / Retired USAF (25 years)
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Isaiah Stebbins
06:22 PM on April 23, 2013
Hey there!
Just checked out most of the website, and I have to say that is was quite an enlightening experiance.
It has definitely shed more light onto which of the two branches I would like to enlist in and I will take this new information to heart.
Thank you.
Just checked out most of the website, and I have to say that is was quite an enlightening experiance.
It has definitely shed more light onto which of the two branches I would like to enlist in and I will take this new information to heart.
Thank you.
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Justin Delaney
06:23 PM on February 24, 2013
I served from 1993 to 1999. From 1994 to 1999 I served in the 82nd Airborne. I also come from a big Marine Corps family. So I grew up on stories about Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, Korea, Vietnam, Parris Island, ETC
Who knows what has changed since I got out?? I'm only speak from when I was in.
One thing I would change about the Army is, there isn't a lot of Army wide pride. What I mean is, You are a cook, mechanic, Infantry.....Not soldier. Getting our jump wings, we were told you are a paratrooper for life in the Airborne Fraternity. But no word of being a soldier for life.
Plus the Army history is not as drilled in as the Marine Corps. You learn it. But it doesn't become a part of your "soul" My Grandfather taught me Marine Corps history since I was small. I knew the Marine Corps hymn since I was about 5. Don't ask me to remember one word of the Army song.
One thing I don't like is, The Army is "easy". How so? Mental? Physical? Carrying 100 or more pounds of gear and rucking 20 miles is no different if you are Army, Marine Corps, or the girl scouts. I did 45 parachute jumps 99% were around 2am in total darkness sometimes with almost 200 lbs of gear strapped to me. (Ruck, Parchute, rifle. ETC)
We are not all fat asses. In the 82nd. we had standards. A roommate actually got kicked out for not losing weight. We ran 4 to 8 miles almost 5 days a week. Along with the standard pushups, sit ups, ETC
And despite what the 15 year old online "experts" think. Just remember, no matter what branch, you can get killed by the EXACT SAME enemy, firing the EXACT SAME bullets.
Who knows what has changed since I got out?? I'm only speak from when I was in.
One thing I would change about the Army is, there isn't a lot of Army wide pride. What I mean is, You are a cook, mechanic, Infantry.....Not soldier. Getting our jump wings, we were told you are a paratrooper for life in the Airborne Fraternity. But no word of being a soldier for life.
Plus the Army history is not as drilled in as the Marine Corps. You learn it. But it doesn't become a part of your "soul" My Grandfather taught me Marine Corps history since I was small. I knew the Marine Corps hymn since I was about 5. Don't ask me to remember one word of the Army song.
One thing I don't like is, The Army is "easy". How so? Mental? Physical? Carrying 100 or more pounds of gear and rucking 20 miles is no different if you are Army, Marine Corps, or the girl scouts. I did 45 parachute jumps 99% were around 2am in total darkness sometimes with almost 200 lbs of gear strapped to me. (Ruck, Parchute, rifle. ETC)
We are not all fat asses. In the 82nd. we had standards. A roommate actually got kicked out for not losing weight. We ran 4 to 8 miles almost 5 days a week. Along with the standard pushups, sit ups, ETC
And despite what the 15 year old online "experts" think. Just remember, no matter what branch, you can get killed by the EXACT SAME enemy, firing the EXACT SAME bullets.
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David Palmer
01:09 PM on February 14, 2013
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George Kim
02:18 AM on February 07, 2013
WOW Army POG basic training. Army reception is't supposed to be tough. Army reception is kind of like a second MEPS. Biased video obviously. Ft. Benning is the combat-arms basic training. I went to Ft. Benning reception and I got no sleep for two nights and the drill sarge left the lights on throughout the night. Marines tend to believe that their branch is better because of the "hardness" of boot camp. 13 weeks out of 6 years makes their service better for some reason. The person who made this website obviously was biased against the Army. So I will correct this.
Marines are proud of their branch and usually say they're a Marine not a 1st Marine Division Marine. The Army is made up of units. In one unit, their regulations, PT, tactics may be different from another unit. For example, one Army unit may conduct PT three times a day while another unit may only conduct PT once a day. One unit may train to clear a room completely different from another unit. Soldiers are proud of their units such as the 101st, 82nd, 10th Mountain and there's a friendly rivalry between the Units.
Sure, the Marine has all this badassness and first to fight mentality. However, the Army has had the first combat unit on the ground in every single major war, including Iraq and Afghanistan. 90% of the Army deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Around 70% of the Army seen combat or at least have a combat patch. Army has longer deployments, was 15 months long, now its 9 months. You can't say the same for Marines. Only around 6-8% of the US military in Iraq or Afghanistan are Marines. Only around 40% of Marines have seen combat. Marine deployments are 4-6 months. Pretty much every PTSD victim resulting from combat are soldiers, because they see combat SO much. The Army has won Marksmanship competition like 6 years in a row. However, the Marines want the reputation on toughness and "KILL." The Army wants soldiers to be Professionals. We can't have any tattoos everywhere where it can be seen. We go to resilience training. If you are caught drunk or piss hot for performance enhancing drugs, even a dirty look at a passing female's tits, you get kicked out of the Army, not kidding. No horseplaying allowed. Not really KILL, mostly PROFESSIONAL soldier. I really hate that about the Army, WAY to strict.
Why do you think the Marines have the lowest re-enlistment rates. Even Marines hate BEING Marines, seems like they only like to brag about being a Marine. They brag brag brag. I stand in line for chow, There's a group of Marines talking about how hard boot camp was. How they did this and that and how they ran 50k and how training was intense and they are sore from hand-to-hand. We (soldiers) jump out of planes, rappel from helicopters, go on a 16k ruck march, perform combatives, and go clear an entire mock village and when we finally get back to the barracks and stand in line for chow, we don't talk about how crazy hard our training was. We talk about gun control laws.
If you want to be an infantryman, go ARMY. In the Marines, your just an infantryman. In the Army, you can be a light infantryman, mechanized infantry, airborne infantry, air assault infantry, or mountain warfare infantry. On top of that, you get more skills so you can be a better infantryman. Such as, you go to airborne school, pathfinder school, scout sniper school, jungle warfare, arctic warfare, mountain warfare, dive school. Marines have to go to these Army schools to get trained. The Army has the most Spec-ops (Rangers, Green Berets, Delta, Psyops, Night Stalkers)
Army support is a great way to go too. Marines tend to believe and train support units to be infantry. In the Army, you focus on your job and you do your job. So, if you are a Army mechanic, you are a mechanic, not an infantryman. You focus and train as a mechanic and perform your duties as a mechanic. Same with pilots, you are a pilot not an infantryman. Pilots fly and perform THEIR duties to the best of their abilities.
There, a response biased towards the Army.
Marines are proud of their branch and usually say they're a Marine not a 1st Marine Division Marine. The Army is made up of units. In one unit, their regulations, PT, tactics may be different from another unit. For example, one Army unit may conduct PT three times a day while another unit may only conduct PT once a day. One unit may train to clear a room completely different from another unit. Soldiers are proud of their units such as the 101st, 82nd, 10th Mountain and there's a friendly rivalry between the Units.
Sure, the Marine has all this badassness and first to fight mentality. However, the Army has had the first combat unit on the ground in every single major war, including Iraq and Afghanistan. 90% of the Army deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Around 70% of the Army seen combat or at least have a combat patch. Army has longer deployments, was 15 months long, now its 9 months. You can't say the same for Marines. Only around 6-8% of the US military in Iraq or Afghanistan are Marines. Only around 40% of Marines have seen combat. Marine deployments are 4-6 months. Pretty much every PTSD victim resulting from combat are soldiers, because they see combat SO much. The Army has won Marksmanship competition like 6 years in a row. However, the Marines want the reputation on toughness and "KILL." The Army wants soldiers to be Professionals. We can't have any tattoos everywhere where it can be seen. We go to resilience training. If you are caught drunk or piss hot for performance enhancing drugs, even a dirty look at a passing female's tits, you get kicked out of the Army, not kidding. No horseplaying allowed. Not really KILL, mostly PROFESSIONAL soldier. I really hate that about the Army, WAY to strict.
Why do you think the Marines have the lowest re-enlistment rates. Even Marines hate BEING Marines, seems like they only like to brag about being a Marine. They brag brag brag. I stand in line for chow, There's a group of Marines talking about how hard boot camp was. How they did this and that and how they ran 50k and how training was intense and they are sore from hand-to-hand. We (soldiers) jump out of planes, rappel from helicopters, go on a 16k ruck march, perform combatives, and go clear an entire mock village and when we finally get back to the barracks and stand in line for chow, we don't talk about how crazy hard our training was. We talk about gun control laws.
If you want to be an infantryman, go ARMY. In the Marines, your just an infantryman. In the Army, you can be a light infantryman, mechanized infantry, airborne infantry, air assault infantry, or mountain warfare infantry. On top of that, you get more skills so you can be a better infantryman. Such as, you go to airborne school, pathfinder school, scout sniper school, jungle warfare, arctic warfare, mountain warfare, dive school. Marines have to go to these Army schools to get trained. The Army has the most Spec-ops (Rangers, Green Berets, Delta, Psyops, Night Stalkers)
Army support is a great way to go too. Marines tend to believe and train support units to be infantry. In the Army, you focus on your job and you do your job. So, if you are a Army mechanic, you are a mechanic, not an infantryman. You focus and train as a mechanic and perform your duties as a mechanic. Same with pilots, you are a pilot not an infantryman. Pilots fly and perform THEIR duties to the best of their abilities.
There, a response biased towards the Army.
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janet humphrey
12:18 PM on November 15, 2012
my son is a scout/sniper and tells me that because you have to be E4 that it is harder to get promoted because this unit is made up of mainly E5 and higher is this true
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Josh
02:34 AM on September 04, 2012
I'm planning on going enlisted in the USMC and see if I would be cut out to be an officer while serving a six year term. Does the time you sign your contract reflect your leave date? If I had to have one waiver signed saying I "experimented" with weed with no criminal background and no other waivers, would I still be able to be stationed overseas? And what mos or field would be best suited if I wanted to take online college classes? I'm thinking about Intelligence Specialist?
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01:59 PM on August 29, 2012
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C.A.
11:17 AM on May 05, 2012
Richard Alston says...
I am a senior and I'm about to go through the enlistment process and I was hoping to make a career out of the corps. reading this kind of discouraged me a little bit. It can't be that hard to stay in as long as you get promoted and pick the right MOS right?
Problem is there are a lot of people like you out there. A lot of Marines are good at what they do, but only a minority can be promoted. You saw on the website, only 25% stay in after their 1st enlistment. People are going to have to start being compared to each other and only the ones who are in the best shape, have the best knowledge, best leadership skills and job performance will be the ones who stay. Or perhaps the person who gets to stay has some connections and that's the main reason why. That's just how it is now. So the only way you can stay in, is if you go far, far out of your way to shine amongst everyone else in your unit. Many also strive in the same way so it will be competetive. But it is still possible. However a few times there could be someone with connections and you don't, no matter how hard you tried. Hey it's sad but not everything in the Marine Corps is sweet.
But still, you are a Marine forever, and if you want to stay in a military environment you could always join a different branch, and you will still have the right to call yourself a Marine.
My advice is just do it anyway. 4 years in the Corps is better than none. The title stays with you forever.
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hailey123
07:50 PM on February 06, 2012
wtf says...
They should have done army reception from ft
benning they did marine reception from paris island. If they wanted to make it unbiased they wouldve shown ft benning vs paris island or san diego vs ft leonardwood not leonardwood vs paris island a pog reception vs a grunt receotion is what it really is.
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Andy
10:38 AM on January 16, 2012
So I still can't decide if I want to join the marine corps or the army, I do know I want to be an infantry man/ rifle man! Then later go into SF. Where would I have a better chance? Marines or army? And how long would it take to go from an infantry man to rifle man to rangers to delta squad in the army?
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Richard Alston
10:43 PM on December 24, 2011
I am a senior and I'm about to go through the enlistment process and I was hoping to make a career out of the corps. reading this kind of discouraged me a little bit. It can't be that hard to stay in as long as you get promoted and pick the right MOS right?
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Jonathan
09:26 PM on December 13, 2011
I'm a HS student whose set on the Marine Corps (: this website along with futurejarheads did help shed some light on the biggest USMC & Army myths and controversies
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Nick
07:15 PM on November 26, 2011
Great website its helped me alot. I too am trying to make the difficult choice between the Army and Marines.
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John
07:54 AM on November 23, 2011
What a joke of a site.
If you wanna be a stud instead of a dud, I suggest you join the army and become either a Ranger Medic, an S.F. Medic, or a Delta stud.
These guys kick more butt and save more lives than anything else out there. Oh yeah and medics have won more medals of honor to boot.
Marines are b team at best. America's Second Army.
If you wanna be a stud instead of a dud, I suggest you join the army and become either a Ranger Medic, an S.F. Medic, or a Delta stud.
These guys kick more butt and save more lives than anything else out there. Oh yeah and medics have won more medals of honor to boot.
Marines are b team at best. America's Second Army.
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Reuben Rivera
05:25 PM on November 03, 2011
As of now, I am a sophomore and highschool and wish to enlist once a junior, however I can't choose between a branch. I want to be infantry, that much I know, but I also would like to try out for Special operations once I have a few years under my belt. To be honest I want to become a Marine, however I doubt that I'll ever become more than that in the Corps. I want to be more than just a Marine. Which is why I want to try out for Special operations. I'm 99% sure that even if I make it into the 75th or some other special operations group in the Army I, would feel empty and wonder what my life would be like as a Marine. Please forgive the wording (Just a Marine). I know there is no such thing as just a Marine, but I have no other way of saying what I would like. I want the pride, honor and respect Marines get, but I want the thrill and training that a member of a Special operations member gets. I'm not really in it for the thrill, I'm in to it because that's what I want as a career. Can anyone advise me on what to do? I've heard about MARSOC, but I can't seem to find any information on them.
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wtf
09:07 AM on October 22, 2011
They should have done army reception from ft benning they did marine reception from paris island. If they wanted to make it unbiased they wouldve shown ft benning vs paris island or san diego vs ft leonardwood not leonardwood vs paris island a pog reception vs a grunt receotion is what it really is.
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Branche
04:35 PM on October 09, 2011
Wow Brandon, you are an idiot. You need to grow up. This website is to show you that neither branch is better than the other, but they both serve their unique purposes. Did you not even LOOK at the Intro page?
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Paul
07:09 AM on September 16, 2011
Hey, join army!!
It's a great job to serve the country.
As I provide army training, I feel it very much.
Paul
It's a great job to serve the country.
As I provide army training, I feel it very much.
Paul
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Brandon
06:40 AM on September 06, 2011
no jk. anyway A.M im not a fake tough guy. i would never go to jail EVER i dont like that place and i drop soap often. great website. ALSO you should make a delete comment button.
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A.M.
09:41 PM on August 09, 2011
Brandon, based on your insane, fake-tough-guy attitude, and your stupidity and ignorance, I don't see any possibility of you entering ANY branch of the Armed-services, especially as an officer. And that is a good thing for the rest of us!
Although, I could picture you wearning a really cool orange jumpsuit, with a number printed on it.
P.S. Sam's questions and comments were not stupid at all.
This is my second time visiting these web-sites and once again, the creator did an excellent job.
Although, I could picture you wearning a really cool orange jumpsuit, with a number printed on it.
P.S. Sam's questions and comments were not stupid at all.
This is my second time visiting these web-sites and once again, the creator did an excellent job.
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Brandon
07:46 PM on August 04, 2011
Sam says...
I am 14 years old, and all my life, I have had the desire to be an 'Army Man' AKA Military. I have decided that I will join the military. At first, I was sure I wanted to join the Marine Corps. But as I kept reading into it, i noticed the army has many more career paths, and more slots for SF. So that really changed my outlook on which to join. (The Navy and Air Force do not intrest me at all) My ultimate goal, (If enlisted) is to become a scout sniper. Is the MOS alike in the army and marine corps? Also, I was wondering , do officers get in the field and fight? Do they do paperwork all day? What do they do? I'm thinking about becoming an officer, and would really like to know. Thanks.
-Sam
Sam i am 14 years old to and i have to say that you are a retard.
you dont know anything if you have to ask that. Officers generally go out on the field until they become a major. 2nd lieutenant-Captain usually go on the field. also SF is special forces AKA Army unit. It does not mean SOF Dip shit. And if you didnt know by the time you where 10 that the army has more of those than you are a idiot. join the army queer. LOL your stupid and will never make SF. you be a fat army bucket head. I will be a Marine Officer. have a higher rank a better branch a tougher attitude and get more pussy. good bye.
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Paul
10:35 PM on July 20, 2011
I'm Paul a Filipino me and my 2 friends decided to join the USMC. Tomorrow we have to go back to our recruiter to pass the required documents that is needed. Future Jarhead Oorah!
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Sam
03:14 PM on July 12, 2011
I am 14 years old, and all my life, I have had the desire to be an 'Army Man' AKA Military. I have decided that I will join the military. At first, I was sure I wanted to join the Marine Corps. But as I kept reading into it, i noticed the army has many more career paths, and more slots for SF. So that really changed my outlook on which to join. (The Navy and Air Force do not intrest me at all) My ultimate goal, (If enlisted) is to become a scout sniper. Is the MOS alike in the army and marine corps? Also, I was wondering , do officers get in the field and fight? Do they do paperwork all day? What do they do? I'm thinking about becoming an officer, and would really like to know. Thanks.
-Sam
-Sam
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Dakota Ellis
07:57 PM on July 09, 2011
I have followed this website and future jarhead and think they are great. I am prior service Air Force and I feel like I need to help clear something up. The video on Army recieving is just that... recieving. In the Army they spend their whole first week processing you, giving you shots, issuing you your gear, etc... and after that, you get on a bus to your BCT platoon, meet your Drill Sergeant, and the real stuff begins.
The Marine Corps and The Air Force just do that all that stuff during the first week of training. That doesn't make their Boot Camp and BMT harder, it just makes it different. Do I wish my reception was like it was for those trainees in the video for the army instead of what I experienced in zero week in AF BMT? Hell yeah!!!
But I bet the mind games and the difficulty of your civilian self adjusting to military training is about the same hell that I experienced at Lackland AFB in San Antonio Texas. Bottom line, I am tired of people comparing BMT, BCT, and Boot camp. They are all hard in their own little ways. And if you don't feel like any branches training is hard, good for you.
I am looking into going back in, either with the Army and the Marine Corps. And being prior service, I can assure you that both of the branches Basic trainings are not a concern or a make or break factor for my decision. And most of you DEP'ers would understand that if you had already served such as I. Anyone agree on my perspective? Or disagree. Feel free to email me at dakota.ellis@hotmail.com
The Marine Corps and The Air Force just do that all that stuff during the first week of training. That doesn't make their Boot Camp and BMT harder, it just makes it different. Do I wish my reception was like it was for those trainees in the video for the army instead of what I experienced in zero week in AF BMT? Hell yeah!!!
But I bet the mind games and the difficulty of your civilian self adjusting to military training is about the same hell that I experienced at Lackland AFB in San Antonio Texas. Bottom line, I am tired of people comparing BMT, BCT, and Boot camp. They are all hard in their own little ways. And if you don't feel like any branches training is hard, good for you.
I am looking into going back in, either with the Army and the Marine Corps. And being prior service, I can assure you that both of the branches Basic trainings are not a concern or a make or break factor for my decision. And most of you DEP'ers would understand that if you had already served such as I. Anyone agree on my perspective? Or disagree. Feel free to email me at dakota.ellis@hotmail.com
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brandon
09:19 PM on July 06, 2011
jamal you obviously didnt read anything on the website you are a troll stfu
anyway I wanted to join the military a long time and now i realised the marine corps is right for me thank you.
anyway I wanted to join the military a long time and now i realised the marine corps is right for me thank you.
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Blakk
11:36 PM on June 23, 2011
Great websites and great work. I am a former US Army Soldier and feel I made the right choice. From my many encounters, the average Marine was intellectually inferior to members from other branches and obnoxiously more disrespectful towards other branches. Being that I was already more athletically gifted than the average soldier or marine, I didn't care much about the Marine's harder training. The Army offered more benefits and that made the difference for me. I think if the Marines offered better benefits and embodied a spirit of respect for all others, no Marine would ever leave the branch.
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AB92
01:51 AM on June 21, 2011
About that video. That is Army reception, not Basic Training. That is before all the actual training starts. Compare actual Army Basic to Marine boot and it won't seem as ridiculous.
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Schreiber
01:15 AM on June 07, 2011
Jamal says...
This website is extremely biased towards the Marines. You left out tons of information of the Army, and pretty much pointed out all of the faults of the Army without pointing out any in the Marine Corps. Didn't you say this website was unbiased right at the beggining?
read the entire site and you will realize that this is the place to sugar coat things... He told the truth about the army being the bigger and more equipped of the branches.... its just what it is man, If you are having a hard time deciding what branch then my best piece of advice for you is to sit down and think about you, what you want, and what you have to do to get what you want.... then re-read this webside and the future jarheads's website to learn what you can, there is nothing wrong with enlisting in the army and there damn sure is nothing wrong with joining the Marines Corps, I beleieve every young man should be going through what you are... but check out future jarheads website, its straight forward, down to earth, cuts the bullshit, shows some balls and informs you of what you need to know, and what will be expected of you if you choose the path of the marines....
Good luck in making your choice
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A.M.
07:56 PM on May 26, 2011
Thank you so, so much for this web-site and for futurejarheads.org. I think you did a great job of really explaining what the Marine Corps is all about and the difference between it, and the Army. I was tired of all the over-the-top propaganda about how "the Army is for wimps" and "the Marine Corps sucks".
Some of the Army recruiters I have spoken too basically said that the Marine Corps is horrible, composed of dumb psychos, and every one of them made a huge mistake by not joining the Army instead. Also, all Marines switch over to the Army as soon as they can, whereas no Army soldier has ever made the switch to the Marines.
I needed to cut through the bullshit and really figure out which one of these two great military branches would be better for me, personally, to join. The official web-sites for both of these branches leave a lot of information out.
I had tons of difficult questions that I needed answers to, and no person or web-site was able to provide them until I found your web-sites.
Thanks for being honest and for telling us the truth, good and bad.
Some of the Army recruiters I have spoken too basically said that the Marine Corps is horrible, composed of dumb psychos, and every one of them made a huge mistake by not joining the Army instead. Also, all Marines switch over to the Army as soon as they can, whereas no Army soldier has ever made the switch to the Marines.
I needed to cut through the bullshit and really figure out which one of these two great military branches would be better for me, personally, to join. The official web-sites for both of these branches leave a lot of information out.
I had tons of difficult questions that I needed answers to, and no person or web-site was able to provide them until I found your web-sites.
Thanks for being honest and for telling us the truth, good and bad.
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Jamal
11:18 PM on May 11, 2011
This website is extremely biased towards the Marines. You left out tons of information of the Army, and pretty much pointed out all of the faults of the Army without pointing out any in the Marine Corps. Didn't you say this website was unbiased right at the beggining?
Oops!
Oops, you forgot something.